Comments on: ‘Long didgeridoo’ journey http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/ new earth-wind-space didgeridoo sounds out of no-place Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:32:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Colas http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-147 Colas Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:17:18 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-147 Hello ! I have no idea what key it will be, most likely around E or F, but I haven't decided what shape I will give it... I need to experiment a little more ! I recently made a great 2m20 G/B/G with a 8cm bell, and now I'm currently working on a 2m45 hazelnut. Basically I'm trying to make another needle with a bell : a 40cm long cone ending ~15cm, this shloud be around A or A#. And if I like it the oak will be the same with an even bigger bell (not much bigger but a lot longer : 20cm over 80-100cm) I'm glad we can discuss all this next month ! See you soon ! It is going to be a huuuge week-end :) Colas Hello !
I have no idea what key it will be, most likely around E or F, but I haven’t decided what shape I will give it… I need to experiment a little more ! I recently made a great 2m20 G/B/G with a 8cm bell, and now I’m currently working on a 2m45 hazelnut. Basically I’m trying to make another needle with a bell : a 40cm long cone ending ~15cm, this shloud be around A or A#. And if I like it the oak will be the same with an even bigger bell (not much bigger but a lot longer : 20cm over 80-100cm)
I’m glad we can discuss all this next month !

See you soon ! It is going to be a huuuge week-end :)
Colas

]]> By: Du http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Du Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:30:36 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-140 Hello Colas! The oak log looks very nice! The bell is quite big, isn't it? Do you aim at any key? You understood well what I meant. I am considering now many ways of joint making. The O ring is one of the possibilities, for sure. It has some problems due to the size and adjustment so it can slide inside, but not slide after that... Oh well, after some tries and errors, best solution will shine! Probieren geht über studieren. ;-) I look forward to seeing you again! Du Hello Colas!
The oak log looks very nice! The bell is quite big, isn’t it? Do you aim at any key?

You understood well what I meant. I am considering now many ways of joint making. The O ring is one of the possibilities, for sure. It has some problems due to the size and adjustment so it can slide inside, but not slide after that… Oh well, after some tries and errors, best solution will shine! Probieren geht über studieren. ;-)

I look forward to seeing you again!

Du

]]> By: Du http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Du Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:35:25 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-139 Hello Harm! Thank you! I realized I have made my first answer too complicated. So in my second attempt I will reduce everything to the essential.;-) Your proposition is interesting. But I am not sure how you mean it, or that I can make it. Epoxy/fiberglass isn't my best field. I would be very interested if you made it, to see it. Cheers! Du Hello Harm!
Thank you!
I realized I have made my first answer too complicated. So in my second attempt I will reduce everything to the essential.;-)
Your proposition is interesting. But I am not sure how you mean it, or that I can make it. Epoxy/fiberglass isn’t my best field. I would be very interested if you made it, to see it.
Cheers!
Du

]]> By: Harm http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Harm Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:32:29 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-138 Why not make a didge out of fiberglass or epoxy? Once you have made it, you can saw it into 2 or 3 pieces and glue a metal or fiberglass pipe in 1 end (protruding 10 cm) where 2 pieces connect. Lightweight and easy to build. And contrary to what people think, you can make a fiberglass or epoxy didge sound very 'dark'. - Harm Why not make a didge out of fiberglass or epoxy?
Once you have made it, you can saw it into 2 or 3 pieces
and glue a metal or fiberglass pipe in 1 end (protruding 10 cm)
where 2 pieces connect.
Lightweight and easy to build.
And contrary to what people think, you can make a fiberglass
or epoxy didge sound very ‘dark’.

- Harm

]]> By: Colas http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Colas Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:57:34 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-110 oooh I will watch the angles !! It is not exactly the straight kind of branch, so angles will give me a few headaches I'm afraid... some old pictures here : http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2687/imgp1770d.jpg http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2445/imgp1771c.jpg I'm not sure what you mean by "Material is simply too hard to be directly joining in this precision I could make it". You mean you could'nt make the two surfaces "parallel" enough so it touches perfectly on the whole length of the tubes ? Maybe there is a possible hybrid solution, with more flexible material... have you noticed the "woodslide" didgeridoos in Airvault ? http://www.francedidgeridoo.com/bannierewoodslide.gif If you have tried them you may have noticed the joint system, which allows perfect sliding (not too esay, not too hard) and no air leak. Basically it is a ring over the end of the inner tube with two layers. The first one is expanding foam to keep the pressure on the whole surface , and above it to make it slide in there is a thin layer of a sliding material (teflon). I don't know the details of how it's made but it seems possible to adapt this with the same kind of joint you made. By the way, I happen to live near Dijon so I will be at your workshop in May :) my piece of oak may (or may not) be hollow by then ! Until then take care and good luck with your new joints! Colas oooh I will watch the angles !! It is not exactly the straight kind of branch, so angles will give me a few headaches I’m afraid… some old pictures here :
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2687/imgp1770d.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2445/imgp1771c.jpg

I’m not sure what you mean by “Material is simply too hard to be directly joining in this precision I could make it”. You mean you could’nt make the two surfaces “parallel” enough so it touches perfectly on the whole length of the tubes ?
Maybe there is a possible hybrid solution, with more flexible material… have you noticed the “woodslide” didgeridoos in Airvault ?
http://www.francedidgeridoo.com/bannierewoodslide.gif
If you have tried them you may have noticed the joint system, which allows perfect sliding (not too esay, not too hard) and no air leak. Basically it is a ring over the end of the inner tube with two layers. The first one is expanding foam to keep the pressure on the whole surface , and above it to make it slide in there is a thin layer of a sliding material (teflon). I don’t know the details of how it’s made but it seems possible to adapt this with the same kind of joint you made.

By the way, I happen to live near Dijon so I will be at your workshop in May :) my piece of oak may (or may not) be hollow by then !

Until then take care and good luck with your new joints!
Colas

]]> By: Du http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-96 Du Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:38:23 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-96 =) To tell you the truth dear Colas, I am not as happy with this joint as I was before. It is a bit problematic because of two things; it's principle in relation to size, and it's material. Material is simply too hard to be directly joining in this precision I could make it. It can be done better, but I am not sure it would work even then. The other thing that did not work out perfectly is the didge itself. It is right in tone and toots, but in sound quality it is too bright for what I like. I like the "dark juice" of it's prototype better. Also, I messed up the impedances a bit, so it is not so smooth and fulfilling to play. When you make your didge, think about the position you will play it in, and regarding to that make your joint. Watch the angles! Good luck, Du =)
To tell you the truth dear Colas, I am not as happy with this joint as I was before. It is a bit problematic because of two things; it’s principle in relation to size, and it’s material. Material is simply too hard to be directly joining in this precision I could make it. It can be done better, but I am not sure it would work even then.
The other thing that did not work out perfectly is the didge itself. It is right in tone and toots, but in sound quality it is too bright for what I like. I like the “dark juice” of it’s prototype better. Also, I messed up the impedances a bit, so it is not so smooth and fulfilling to play.
When you make your didge, think about the position you will play it in, and regarding to that make your joint. Watch the angles!
Good luck,
Du

]]> By: Colas http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Colas Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:22:12 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-92 Thanks a lot for these tips ! I have a nice 3 meter oak branch I cut this summer, as soon as the weather gets better I start working on it (oak is supposed to move a lot, so... careful !) I will make it in two pieces. I like your joints ideas, but I don't have the equipement to do them, except for the tape only. I will try to make a bigger wooden cylinder, probably around 30 or 40cm long, in which both ends can fit. It will probably not be airtight, so I'll have to figure out something... I will see when I have to, for now I prefer not to think too much ;) I will let you know how it turns out! Thanks again, and take care Colas Thanks a lot for these tips !
I have a nice 3 meter oak branch I cut this summer, as soon as the weather gets better I start working on it (oak is supposed to move a lot, so… careful !) I will make it in two pieces.
I like your joints ideas, but I don’t have the equipement to do them, except for the tape only. I will try to make a bigger wooden cylinder, probably around 30 or 40cm long, in which both ends can fit. It will probably not be airtight, so I’ll have to figure out something… I will see when I have to, for now I prefer not to think too much ;)
I will let you know how it turns out!

Thanks again, and take care
Colas

]]> By: Du http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Du Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:45:56 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-26 Thank you Preston and Pam. I still did not finish this instrument, as I had some other project to do, and summer dropped in. It now starts to wake again. I did not plan to make any special recordings, but if you are really interested, I could do it. Just talk me into it. ;-) See you around. Du Thank you Preston and Pam.
I still did not finish this instrument, as I had some other project to do, and summer dropped in. It now starts to wake again.
I did not plan to make any special recordings, but if you are really interested, I could do it. Just talk me into it. ;-)
See you around.
Du

]]> By: Pamela Mortensen http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Pamela Mortensen Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:40:48 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-12 Thank you, Du! Great article. It has me curious about many things now. I'll formulate some questions when I can get some time. :-) Pam Thank you, Du! Great article. It has me curious about many things now. I’ll formulate some questions when I can get some time. :-)

Pam

]]> By: Preston http://www.lapaine.com/index.php/2009/08/01/long-didgeridoo-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Preston Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:09:26 +0000 http://www.lapaine.com/?p=344#comment-6 Great article! I would love to hear a sound clip of how that didge sounds now that you have put it all together. Great article! I would love to hear a sound clip of how that didge sounds now that you have put it all together.

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